[Nmcaver] nmcaver Digest, Vol 21, Issue 9
Stephen Fleming
swcaver at warpdriveonline.com
Wed Jun 28 14:00:49 EDT 2006
Mike_Bilbo at nm.blm.gov wrote:
> I do agree with you in the concern that (and this is a very real future possibility) if people have to pay annual fees to visit public lands, are those lands actually public?
You bet, but in name only.
> Personally, I don't use those passes and probably never will.
I only get one for parks when I think I will exceed the value of the
card. I hate being nickeled and dimed at every gate. Buying one in no
way means I accept the premise they are a legitimate charge to use
public land. Anymore, I pretty much only go to Big Bend. That is the
only park that is more like BLM/FS land in that I can go days there
without having to interface with the agency once, of course, I pay my
entry fee to access my public land. My enjoyment of any public land is
not enhanced by an agency constantly checking on me.
> The concern is the National Parks Pass and other annual passes becoming mandatory, especially Forest and BLM managed land.
>
Hold onto your shorts. It's only a matter of time before this stuff
infects those agencies. The public needs to get really riled up about
this stupidity, but as we all know there is a large contingent that
doesn't see any problem with how this is progressing.
> Back to the subject of convenience of those passes, I remain correct on that, the convenience - people can choose to pay or not pay.
>
I never argued that. However, it is not an issue of whether to pay or
not with the NPS. You WILL pay. It merely is an issue of how you choose
to pay.
> On NPS-managed land, is that land technically public, given NPS protection mandate (as opposed to multiple use)? Years ago I got into trouble by
> leaving a trail and traveling cross country in the back country of Guadalupe Mountains NP. I maintained it was public land and that I could do that as I wanted to visit an area other than where the trails led. I was informed to go back to the trail and stay on the trail, end of discussion.
The NPS has hidden behind that 'preserve for future generation' line for
years. They probably can't even explain what it means. The only way they
seem to be able to apply it is to increasingly restrict public use. If
you lock everything down so no one can use the resource, who are they
saving it for? Technically, WE are one of those future generations. I'm
ready to use the resources but cannot freely do so. While there
certainly are exceptions in specific, finite areas, I don't believe you
will find the NPS approach overall results in any better
preservation/management than the other land agencies accomplish; but
they try their best to be the Disneyland of public land with a packaged
facade of how they think it must have been once upon a time. What the
NPS is especially good at is regulating you to death with far more rules
than are reasonably necessary. The NPS is in the mode of tracking
everything you do. That's why there are camping permits, backcountry
permits, hiking permits, trail registers, river permits, etc. Once you
are successful in teaching the public they have to get a permit, it
becomes much easier to attach a fee to that process. Throw up an entry
booth and you can capture them at the boundary with the first of many fees.
As to making you stay on a trail. Well, they have obviously determined
that you represent a threat to something if you are allowed to wander at
will. Remember by providing you with a trail they already have
determined what it is you will be allowed to see and experience. They
have picked the best for you. As long as you don't have any exploratory
urges you will be happy. Much of their clientele is happy. As long as
they can stamp their park passport and take a picture of the entrance
sign their trip is a success. It's a lot like standing in line at Six
Flags to ride the rollercoaster. Follow the queue and be sure to visit
the gift shop on the way out.
The NPS is a real different animal. Think about contacts you have had
with employees of the NPS vs. the USFS or BLM. The FS and BLM more often
than not refer to the land they manage as your lands or public lands.
How often do you hear NPS employees refer to the parks as 'our'
land/park (in the possessive, from their perspective)? A lot more than
the other agencies. They have a very proprietary mindset and have lost
sight of who they are managing those public lands for. Their institution
will survive, but your access to the land may not make it. The NPS won't
ever let it happen, but if they would substantially back off their
onerous oversight of public use they might find they are just as
successful in management without running around wagging their fingers at
everyone and always saying 'pay' and 'no'. If they spent their time
dealing with the 20% who create 80% of the problems, their overhead
costs would go down, enforcement of real violations would go up because
they wouldn't be spending all their time chasing after $3 or $10 fees
like embarrassed beggars, and the majority of us who cause no problems
ever on any public land and don't need our hands held could just be left
the hell alone. It's simple concept and because of that it won't work.
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